CUMBERLAND, MD - "I want this over," says Ronnie Shambaugh, a striking dairy worker.
It's been over a month since Potomac Farms Dairy workers went on strike.
"We're getting very small pay from the teamsters now: some of us are surviving on a hundred dollars a week right now," says Thomas Fair, a striking dairy worker.
The workers' union rejected the business' offer that would cut their pension and pay back in June. Since then, they haven't heard a word.
"They'll stand at this door and window and peer out, they won't respond to you, they won't respond to us, it's such a terrible position for a company that used to be thought of as the local cow," says Larry Wolfe, President of the worker's union, Teamsters Local 453.
When WHAG approached the Potomac Farms Manufacturing building, the doors were locked and a front-door buzzer responded, "we have no comment."
Many strikers say they had no relief workers for over a year: they worked six day weeks, more than 10 hours a day.
"We can't go on like that, we can't. The objective is to make money, not lose money," says Tom Trimble, a striking dairy worker.
Now local grocery stores, like Helmick's Grocery in Flintstone, are losing a quarter of their business.
"Just one of our Friday's, a normal delivery day, nobody showed up," says Dawn Mock, a sales clerk at Hemlick's Grocery.
They found out by a rumor that they would no longer get Potomac's products.
"I have eight shelves that belong to Potomac milk and they're empty," says Linda Smith, Hemlick's Grocery store owner.
Smith now brings the product back to Hemlick's herself. She's saving Flintstone customers a 30 mile round trip drive to Cumberland just for a gallon of milk.
"Most of the men on this line have worked here ten plus years, some twenty, my husband sixteen, and they've worked hard for the business. To have them just stand out here for five weeks, it's not just financially draining, it's emotionally draining," says Tara Fair, wife of a striking dairy worker.
The workers say the time is now: Potomac Farms can make a difference in fifty families' lives just by making a phone call.
It's been over a month since Potomac Farms Dairy workers went on strike.
"We're getting very small pay from the teamsters now: some of us are surviving on a hundred dollars a week right now," says Thomas Fair, a striking dairy worker.
The workers' union rejected the business' offer that would cut their pension and pay back in June. Since then, they haven't heard a word.
"They'll stand at this door and window and peer out, they won't respond to you, they won't respond to us, it's such a terrible position for a company that used to be thought of as the local cow," says Larry Wolfe, President of the worker's union, Teamsters Local 453.
When WHAG approached the Potomac Farms Manufacturing building, the doors were locked and a front-door buzzer responded, "we have no comment."
Many strikers say they had no relief workers for over a year: they worked six day weeks, more than 10 hours a day.
"We can't go on like that, we can't. The objective is to make money, not lose money," says Tom Trimble, a striking dairy worker.
Now local grocery stores, like Helmick's Grocery in Flintstone, are losing a quarter of their business.
"Just one of our Friday's, a normal delivery day, nobody showed up," says Dawn Mock, a sales clerk at Hemlick's Grocery.
They found out by a rumor that they would no longer get Potomac's products.
"I have eight shelves that belong to Potomac milk and they're empty," says Linda Smith, Hemlick's Grocery store owner.
Smith now brings the product back to Hemlick's herself. She's saving Flintstone customers a 30 mile round trip drive to Cumberland just for a gallon of milk.
"Most of the men on this line have worked here ten plus years, some twenty, my husband sixteen, and they've worked hard for the business. To have them just stand out here for five weeks, it's not just financially draining, it's emotionally draining," says Tara Fair, wife of a striking dairy worker.
The workers say the time is now: Potomac Farms can make a difference in fifty families' lives just by making a phone call.
Comments
I have yet to be silenced. And in all fun I am LOL. For being a "neighbor" u are extremely hostile. And also most informed. And as a peace promoter, are interested on hostile continuance. Now my intent isn't to scar anyone with big words I took the day to be sure I had the facts. You seem so passionate for living so far. Ten of those thirteen men voted for this strike. That's a pretty good margin in numbers and I quess scab, which u say doesn't indentify ur man, apologies typos, these scabs must have been scared into taking these union jobs, must have been scared into their vote. Point is, they once were co-workers, girl, you know as well as I that they saw eachother of a week at times, then families at home. U hostility question the overtime, point is for 16yrs, my case 15yrs our husbands helped pad the companies pockets, and yes we made money, but ur name nor mine appears on the product, only to have the hostile neighbor to know more than us strikers. To have nothing to say for 5 weeks, even your fired would be more professional. Instead its ok with them that "neighbors" are hostile, co-workers are divided and 158 elderly sit with no milk with no notice. A 401k u are eager to promote,as a neighbor, in which 4% of these employees income has to be invested for the company to give 1%. Look, if everything is on the up, then let us waste our time taking pics of unfridgerated deliveries being put in the back of a truck. Maybe you have a truck the company can use, for all we know, maybe you already have. Ur hostile feeling on what you call social networking, as long as u were befriended look away, if u have piggybacked in, not so social. I'm not sure, neighbor, ur intensity on the union, but, Teamsters lawyers are who, well what you say, "protecting us." And hun, its protocol that they do, and FYI, they are. Its weird as a neighbor u questioned that. If the company is your idea of the cooler head, then where are they? All we have heard is the mans who name is on the products grandaughter ride by us screaming gestures to match her finger. Sweet girl she is.
Nicole G.
October 23, 2012 at 12:25 pm
LOL, we are sure many of you have lawyered up, but wouldn't the Teamsters protect you? You cannot claim libel nor slander against anyone if it is the truth and especially when you announce what you have done on social websites. Admitting to wrong doing on any social networking site,even such as this. There is not a leg to stand on. Have we as a group seen lawyers, yes not long after this started, just to see what our rights were. As for the security guard, We have no answer why, or where he was. And, do we trust our Police Department, yes 100%, absolutely, they are one of the finest in this country, and we know it and we will proudly stand behind them. So, we asked for peace, we mentioned the truth, we will glady refrain from commenting anymore.Not because we are intimidated by some strong words, but we are not getting anywhere in achieving it and it just is not worth it. We know what you are fighting for and why. And, we shall enjoy our friends and our neighbors and our children.Peace!
Dakota S.
October 22, 2012 at 6:39 pm
As far as inconsistencies, a man wants peace but accuses another of beating his wife and children. Calls another man short and fat. Tells a mans wife she's crazy, that's how you ask for peace? A woman must have been scared to death yet the company hired security, out of Johnston, didn't secure her? Companies security surrounds the building 24/7 so how is it these supposes criminal acts that another claims keep happening? Yet the only police report is on a boy back behind company gates!?! None of you are getting what you say you want here. By all means if there is criminal activity then are you also fingering your local police dept.? Its been researched and the departments have not a clue of what is being accused here. By all means take the appropriate route, just as these strikers are doing.
Nicole G.
October 22, 2012 at 5:36 am
Sorry! Our resources, which is what was offered to us from the company say yes, and every year the profit is greater. So then why, we don't know, not one company representative has said anything but, "No Comment"! Second issue is the retroactive pay. In the previous contact, union employees went 15 months with no retroactivity (back pay) on their salary. That being said, the company requested an extension agreeing to pay retrospective salary only to now refuse after owing 16 months to these employees. Third issue, Equal Holiday Pay. Wanting the same holiday pay rate as Johnston employees receive. Why shouldn't they get the same rate for doing the same job? Again, we don't know, the company has no comment.
Nicole G.
October 22, 2012 at 4:48 am
Against the advice of my lawyer, which is also why you will no longer get a response from the Fairs, I just can't help to point out the inconsistencies in the ones who cannot leave well enough alone. I will get to that but first and most important, the Galliker/Potomac Farms union workers are on strike fighting for their pension fund, in which the company no longer wishes to pay into, why? Have these workers not brought this company profit? Our resources
Nicole G.
October 22, 2012 at 4:13 am
Kristin C or now Kristin J, we are all entitled to our opinions. We did feel sorry, but the problem with a lot of this violence is that some of you are on social networking sites to purposely defame the dairy. You could be a friend of someone we know, we have read a lot of comments but we have never responded. Social networking sites are interesting, sort of like Las Vegas, what goes on in Las Vegas stays in Las Vegas. Comments very well could have been copied and saved, e-mailed, printed. I will say we were neutral but we know much,much more than we are all letting on. We will continue to live oue lives and lay low, but we do not believe in the violence, nor some of what these men have intentionally done. Maybe you don't know who they are, we think you do, possible you may be covering up. There seems to be a lot of that. It is not slandering when the truth is being told. We don't want associated with the haters, we don't believe in the horrific tactics the few who have went to great lengths to do to others. We hope the really good men choose on their own without being bullied to do what they want. Are we impartial now that we know much of the truth, no we think some of you are lying, deceitful thugs. Not all, but the blowhards. It was stated on several social network sites, this was not supposed to be about this dairy and the strikers, it was to be between the strikers and Johnstown. They chose to take it out on this dairy and these people. A person can be quilty by association, a person cannot do anything but picket peacefully, but by being surrounded by the haters it can make them look bad. Each person needs to decide if they are an adult, do they agree with what has been done or do they not. There is still some great men on that line, but there are some and Kristen we really believe you know who they are, because they talk, but you will deny it. It is not the ones who are telling the truth on here that are making fools of themselves, it is the ones who are violent and taking this to such high extremes. Would we support you now, no. We will pray for the decent guys for guidance. That is our opinion. We are all entitled to it. I don't know Julie, but Julie is telling the truth and many on that line know it. Bascially, deception and lies were told. Most likely to make sure no one crossed, but you know, people can withdrawl and they can cross if they believe what they may have known were complete lies.You just cab't bully someone into making them do what you want them to. Call them scabs,do you think they care? Really? It's just a name, it does not define one's true character. But at least they had the nerve to do stop listening to the lies, man up and do what they chose to do. Worda are words and just that, actions speak much louder than words. Bad actions have a horrible, disgusting, impact, while good actions have a tremendous impact.
Dakota S.
October 21, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Trust my Kristin, I have not, nor will I have stand on a picket line! Especially not with my children!!! You obviously have me confused with someone else. As for what I'm accusing them of doing....IT IS THE TRUTH AND A FACT! Go ask them if they made any prank phone calls! Taking pictures of people who are going there to do a job, ask them if they did that! Then ask them if they stole anything or slashed tires!!! We are all entitled to our opinions, you are right on that. As well as voicing these opinions anywhere we choose! You think being on a public forum discussing something is childish?? Really?? But you are ok with grown men calling other grown men scabs, and making prank phone calls?? Get a life!
Julie S.
October 21, 2012 at 3:43 pm
I havent had a chance to read all of the comments on here until today, the slandering of these men that you guys are doing on here is childish, really. I understand that everyone is entitled to an opinion, but as i said before, this negetivity isnt needed. It is not making anything any better, it is fueling the fire. Julie, if im not mistaken you have also stood on that line, with your children, holding a sign. I was there to witness it, so at one time you were on the other side so you know how hard it is, i am not saying you have to like what they are doing but this is ridiculous. Grow up and keep this off of the internet. I just find it quite entertaining how you people can slander these men like this, yet if you notice the only decent comments are coming from us and our families, you people are terrible. Your making yourselves look bad. I have not witnessed any vulgarity or the heinous crimes that you are accusing these men of. To Dakota S. whoever you are, you have no reason to feel threatened by these men, and at anytime you are more than welcome to come share you opinion with them, they will appreciate it more FACE to FACE and you can express your concerns to them. However, for wanting to stay Neutral in this situation you sure to have alot of hostility towards these men and you feel they should return to work, obviously you are not Neutral on this, it sounds to me like you may have been misinformed as to what they are on strike for, go ask them, im sure they would be more than willing to educate you on the situation. As i said before, you are all entitled to an opinion, but please keep it to yourselves, this is immature and childish and not solving ANY problems. My name is Kirsten Jewell and i would be more than willing to answer any questions or concerns you may have or point you in the direction of someone who can. I am younger than you guys and at this point in all of this im glad my parents raised me to be decent in all situations, which is more than i can say for a few of you.
Kirsten K.
October 21, 2012 at 2:51 pm
We must add, to the woman who is on staff and was harrassed and yelled at. We are sorry you had to endure that. Have any of you thought just for one moment that maybe she said anything in hopes to get away from the 3 of you as fast as she could. She probably was scared to death. Think about it, I mean really, think about how she must have felt being cornerned, recorded. That is not right. We hope you are alright. And Tara you say the company treats everyone like dirt, then if that is correct, why has your husband and many employees been there years and years? You see, that is another statement that dose not make sense. 16 years is a long time to be at a place to work at, that suppossedly treats employees like dirt.If it was so terrible why didn't he look for another job? It is the inconsistencies that are showing some of you your true colors. Hate is a terrible thing to waste and go through life holding a grudge. No one is perdect, everyone makes mistakes. The big mistake in this situation is it is not going the way you inteneded, we suppose and instead of trying to remain calm, some are choosing to sell there soul and listen to the liars. Wilbert, one day, if they continue promoting hate , and like everyone else we all have friends everywhere,
it will come out, the truth is starting to be told.Not on here. There is much more that hasn't even been mentioned. It truly is a waste and a shame, it is like trying to explain to children right from wrong, who to be friends with and who to avoid. Just please leave us all alone on the side streets.
Dakota S.
October 21, 2012 at 2:09 am
Wilbert, Julie is telling you the truth, many are. Sure at first a lot of us felt sorry, but there are always 2 sides to every story and this is has turned into a horrible one. Stepford Steve, yes we thought about it and then we remembered your name. You are loud, you are if not the most vilest, vulagerist 'it' on the line. You sure can move really fast when you want to, funny how you get in people's faces,flinging your arms around, we certainly hope you don't trip and fall and call possum and try and sue the dairy for something that was not their fault. We imagine you were a scab scamming while working there and you and your henchies sure are getting to become scabs on the outside. Keep threatening the people. To the good men, go back, find another job. Don't stoop to Stepford Steve's lying,betraval level as others have. To you Steve and your nightriders, the thruth is coming out. We hope to God the decent men go back in, and you and a few who shall remain nameless never set foot again in that place. Because a few of you have so much hatred you would stoop so low, probably go out on the routes and scam it from the inside. To the good men open up your eyes.
You don't know who do believe, no strong man responds to unwarrented threats as they have done.Don't let them intimidate you! You know they have, you know the networking, that they do, where they go, who they are after. To the raunchy ones, your hatred is so deep, you will lose this battle because of your horrific actions and then what will you do? Who would want to hire some that have done these things as you have stooped so low to do! And, along the way the decent men will get a bad reputation, even by not doing anything, just by being around hate. We think the good ones left certainly don't know who to believe but as long as you believe liars it will not benefit you. Just do what is right for yourself. God, your adults.
Dakota S.
October 21, 2012 at 12:03 am
What proof would you like Wilber? What will make you believe that these men aren't who they pretend to be, and neither are their wives! Have any of them come on here to defend themselves about what I said they did?? I didn't see anyone denying it!
Julie S.
October 20, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Ok Julie you just seem angry and if you have proof i will no longer support these strikers, but until then, please quit slandering their good names. this is very sad.
Wilbert W.
October 20, 2012 at 7:07 pm
Wilbert you are obviously only hearing their side of the story! Phone calls have been made to people late at night calling them scabs, things have been stolen, tires have been slashed, roofing nails were thrown around in the back lot also. They obviously aren't going to tell you that side of the story! I don't even work at the dairy, but I DO get to hear the other side! It's a shame they have the wool pulled over your eyes! They complain about working over time, but many of them loved to get that overtime. Stated that they NEEDED the money! Now they want to stand out on the street and claim it was forced on them! Whatever!!!
Julie S.
October 20, 2012 at 6:59 pm
I live in this neighborhood, and I heard about this feed through a friend. I find this hard to believe because i talk to these men on a daily basis and I have never seen them do any of the things you said. It seems that you are angry that things are not going your way. I feel bad for everyone involved, but slandering people is never appropriate. If you have proof of these things that is one thing, so show it. If not, you are only slandering good people. I hope there is a resolution, but i support these guys and have even donated drinks because i feel bad about their situations. I can only say, that living in this area, i have never witnessed this behavior
Wilbert W.
October 20, 2012 at 6:47 pm
Just frustrated at some of the things the people on here have been doing! Even stooping to steal things.....
Julie S.
October 20, 2012 at 6:30 pm
I was just saying the safety lock was hard to figure out. I could never work it. You seem like you are a very angry woman.
Roberto R.
October 20, 2012 at 6:24 pm
I got it as a gift, but I don't hunt. I don't appreciate you accusing me of being a thief!
Roberto R.
October 20, 2012 at 6:20 pm
Did you buy it or steal it Roberto??
Julie S.
October 20, 2012 at 6:13 pm
Actually Julie, i would be glad to sell mine for $250 if you can figure out how to unlock the child saftey lock.
Roberto R.
October 20, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Anybody got a bow for sale?? I'm looking for a nice bow, thought one of you may have an extra one lying around to sell!
Julie S.
October 20, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Wow Tom F. you are observant. Too bad you can't see your head up your [censored] and get it out!!
Julie S.
October 20, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Julie S, it is Two not too. Just sayin :()
Tom F.
October 20, 2012 at 5:46 pm
At least that "scab" will have a paycheck at the end of the week! I must commend you guys on standing up for something you believe in....it's just a shame that it is something as pathetic as this! And to Steve and Kim, what a fond love affair you too have....gives me chills!!
Julie S.
October 20, 2012 at 9:15 am
Well to Dakota S. Just to let you know YES... I did enjoy yelling at that SCAB ! IT IS WHAT IT IS ...I Steven McDonald, I am not scared to put my name out there for all to see ...! An this is from the fat, short guy ...!!, I'm pleasantly plumped as my wife of 26 years would say ! An hello ,my name is Kim McDonald WIFE an we will be saying SCAB ,scab,scab as needed ! An my husband would rather be a fat guy than a SCAB any day !!!!!!!!!!
Steven M.
October 20, 2012 at 12:27 am
There is a trump card out there and I know who holds it!
Billy L.
October 19, 2012 at 10:52 pm
If you were a poor celebrity, what would you do?
Billy L.
October 19, 2012 at 10:45 pm
I guess there is nothing else to say. You scared her off, or she is too proud to speak. What will happen next? I wonder...
Billy L.
October 19, 2012 at 10:43 pm
I too am awaiting TT's response! Popcorn in hand, lowfat of course!
Julie S.
October 19, 2012 at 9:46 pm
I cannot wait for TT response. Where is she? I just popped some popcorn!
Billy L.
October 19, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Thank you Julie. You are very correct in what you have written. So many of us have tried to be impartial because we live around there, our main priority is to protect all of our children from harm. By reading these nutjob replies, we really are thinking they seriously all need medical attention. They have submitted theirselves to listen to the liars and in return turn into one.People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, if they get our drift. They probably have very nice houses, new cars. I hope the customers of this dairy do read this and understand it is not how they say, they weren't up on the Mount and it is not written in stone. Actions like they have done would throw them off of the Mount.
Dakota S.
October 19, 2012 at 9:20 pm
Julie, FYI, if you eat too much you will get fat lol
Roberto R.
October 19, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Tara says "what jobs?" The jobs that those men have given up were GOOD jobs! There are plenty of able bodied men and women in the area that would take one of those jobs in a heartbeat! I say screw you guys out there refusing to work and bring in the men/women that want to get the job done and keep that dairy afloat!!! Dakota - it's nice to see that there is someone else with a bit of grey matter here on the board!
What, no comments about the destruction any of you have caused?? No one wants to fess up throwing the roofing nails, or stealing, or slashing tires....not to mention threatening phone calls!?!?!? Are you ashamed of your actions, is that why??? Do you have any idea who you called a scab when you made that phone call??? Do you?? Did you recognize the voice on the phone??
What goes around comes around people! I'm more [censored] at the blatant disregard for other peoples property than anything! Go ahead stand out there and hold your stupid signs! Sooner or later - you're all going to be out in the cold and some other unemployed person is going to have an awesome job and awesome benefits!
Julie S.
October 19, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Julie S., excellent post. We are glad others have witnessed this and also know about it. It just keeps getting worse by the day. Tara T., read what we wrote. We live around the dairy. We don't live on the Blvd. and wouldn't want to, simply because the cars sometimes fly down. Reading comprehension may help you to understand. We live on the side steets. We certainly have a right to visit, go outside in our neighborhood. May be hard to believe but we also have phones, computers, cameras. Since it seems the husbands have been working overtime the last year, that must have been a great year of pay. No wonder you can blow off and stay out there. So you denied it was your husband but you admitted you taped it, why didn't you tell him to stop? Are you proud you recorded it? Why didn't the other guy say, hey stop it. Some of you are so arrogant and aggressive, you need help. You actually will lie now, and you will deny it, when you know it is true. I am sorry you lost your health insurance, maybe you can go to a Dr. who might charge you less and get a prescription for valium as you are coming unglued. Standing up and being an activist is one thing, standing up for destructive liars is a another thing. Tell me Tara, was your proud husband and the fat, short guy having fun yelling 'scab' at someone today. We have all only heard that the last few weeks a couple hundred of times. Please seek medical attention before you crack up. You do not know us, we do not know you, but based on your character we do not want to know you. Seek help. We simply just asked for peace. Is that to much to ask for?
Dakota S.
October 19, 2012 at 8:35 pm
What jobs?
Tara T.
October 19, 2012 at 8:10 pm
I do believe that having a paying job of any type that put food on my families table, and provided health insurance (especially if you don't have to pay for it), would reign over standing outside waving a sign!! I know for a FACT that some of these "guys" have caused property damage! That's right, I know all about it! Prank phone calls, roofing nails, slashed tires, theft....any of it ringing any bells boys!!?? And girls?? You wanna strike and starve your family to prove a point, be my freakin guest! However, when you start messing with peoples property, its a whole new ballgame! I do believe there are PLENTY of people willing to take those jobs if you good ole boys don't want them! Where I come from a "scab" is an old indian term for "man with job!"
Julie S.
October 19, 2012 at 5:59 pm
You know who you are and so do I. That is not what happened I was there and my husband did not do what you said! The people on that block have been extremely supportive even offering rides for the workers if they are needed. I have been there many times and have not seen one striker do any thing bad. It's actually amazing that they can keep it together. I am on this and this is defamation of character so I hope you know what you seen because I actually have it recorded on my phone. Say what you want I'm done I have my evidence in order so we will see. Oh and what house on the blvd. has a front yard that someone could be hanging out in to see this.Oh, and Julie they are standing there because it is their job until the strike ends. That is how this process works! Oh and my health care never met deductible since they changed companies on us a few years ago. I pay full for health visits for my children and myself. I guess it would be good if I was dying or had a severe illness!
Tara T.
October 19, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Just a few questions, if it is soo bad of a place to work, then why do the men and women still stand outside on the street waiting to get back in, why not find a better place to work?? Because there aren't many other better jobs out there?? And how are the health care benefits when you all worked there, that is a major issue now a days? Just asking and making sure everyone is thinking?
Julie S.
October 19, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Mrs. fair,both a Tom Fair and a Tara Fair names appear in the video and in the article, making one assume you are possibly married to one another. Whether you are Tara T or not, who knows, if you read her comments, she empahized a lot of what you said making it somewhat relatable. We kindly just asked this to stop. We did not mention her name and are not sure of the man who witnessed this altercation, but what didn't he step in? Now regarding Jack B, again, what I am reading is he worded it possibly incorrect. If he was a Trucker then possibly he was in a union at one time, if he is a VP, I have no idea, but I would assume he is not in a union at the present time, maybe he has a 401, maybe a retirement or an annunity. I have no idea. We are wondering why you think you know who it is, what if you are completely wrong, that is another accusation, someone made. People, we are sure there is much stress on both sides. Please try to keep your emotions in check. Roberto, thanks for the laughs. We can't believe the attacking , accusing, and some of the comments on here. But what do we know? Nothing, we suppose. If someone chooses to get a lawyer to say what many of us have witnessed and try to say it is untrue when it is, we neighbors will play the game, we do not want to, we don't even want in this, we thought we could just ask for peace. That was the intention, to try to some of the strikers to settle down. Please.
Dakota S.
October 19, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Spread 2 tablespoons of jelly or jam evenly onto the other slice of bread
Roberto R.
October 19, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Mr. Jack B. there is no point in hiding your real name the initials tell us everything we need to know J.B....your comments on here belittle the Teamsters president, and you have the nerve to say the negative comments are coming from the strikers? how ironic. I am not afraid to post my name on here and tell you that my family is affected by this strike, i have been there almost every day holding my sign, and i can honestly say the community support is MORE THAN APPRECIATED! These men have an abundance of support behind them and your negativity isnt needed. If your trying to fuel the fire, you have not succeeded, Jim. I would like to add that the staff working arent as innocent as they seem, the comments on "union busting" have been heard by numerous people. Yet, all you seem to comment on is the negetivity of the strikers out there, try looking at yourself and the ridiculous levels you yourself have stooped too in the last 5 weeks. If there are so many people out there willing to take the jobs of these men, why are you still calling them trying to convince them to go back to work. I think the phrase heard once or twice was, "your route will be taken over and you will be out of a job come Monday, if you do not come back to work." Obviously, they are desperate enough to make these phone calls. All these men want is to be treated FAIR, yet they cant even get a comment from anyone in that plant! Who are the real "MEN," the ones standing up for what they believe in or the ones who have to stoop to such a level as to hide behind a fake name to point fingers. You have done nothing in your comments but downgrade these men and "what their children will think of them." I hope when this is all said and done your children see you as the coward you are hiding behind your computer screen, when at any given time you can walk right up to these men on the pickett line and TALK TO THEM!! They have not forced fear upon anyone they are a family out there, a TEAM, supporting each other, UNITED WE STAND!!!
Kirsten K.
October 19, 2012 at 11:05 am
I cannot believe [censored] was censored! And Roberto, thanks for the laugh.
Nicole G.
October 19, 2012 at 7:48 am
Aww, I sparked a nerve in Jackie! Truth hurt? Oh my, A VP of a really large company!! WOW!! What you are is a liar! First your in this [censored] tale union and now a super hero VP. Company isn't union, they hire union. And Jack/John, Union/VP, did you also have problems posting?!?
Nicole G.
October 19, 2012 at 2:57 am
Teamsters
16 hours ago
Please give a show of support to our brothers and sisters from Local 453 who've been on strike against Potomac Farms for 5 weeks. The company won't even talk to them.
http://teamsternation.blogspot.com/2012/10/teamsters-strike-md-dairy-for-5-tough.html
Steven M.
October 19, 2012 at 2:27 am
Teamsters
16 hours ago
Please give a show of support to our brothers and sisters from Local 453 who've been on strike against Potomac Farms for 5 weeks. The company won't even talk to them.
http://teamsternation.blogspot.com/2012/10/teamsters-strike-md-dairy-for-5-tough.html
Steven M.
October 19, 2012 at 2:26 am
Hello persons, i has a comment that will blow away yous mindes............. i dont like milik.
Roberto R.
October 18, 2012 at 11:09 pm
This is totally [censored] and I'm calling a lawyer in the morning. We will find out what email address this is coming from!
Tara T.
October 18, 2012 at 10:40 pm
Just so you know the neighbors have donated electricity canopies, and a gas heater. I really think they support these guys! Spend your time on here trying to make these guys look bad, maybe that will keep you in business!
Tara T.
October 18, 2012 at 10:33 pm
This is so weak! This is a total lie and if you want to bring up names Nancy was louder than anyone! By the way she stated that the company treats her like dirt just like all the other employees. I have this statement recorded on my phone because I am not stupid. You can also ask Marcus, he was there and I'm sure he would love to share. You people are sick!!! I'll give ya credit you play a good game! No one said Mr Fair had integrity so where do you get this name? There is no way you could know this when my name is under Tara T. Keep it classy like Bob!
Tara T.
October 18, 2012 at 10:30 pm
We live around Potomac Farms, have for years. We are trying to stay impartial. We have seen workers, staff, greetings with a 'Hello.' Some neighbors yes they are riled up because of the noise, it doesn't bother us or our small children or even other neighbors. However, they along with us have questions. Regarding Jack B's question to the strikers, as neither of us have never been in a union, only each have a 401k, we would like a few answers if possible. Naturally, we are out and about in our yards, or walking with our children in what we call all of our community, we do try to avoid there, not for any particular reason, we just don't want to get into the middle of this. Blunty put, we do not know what to ecpect, and protect our little children. If any of you strikers, do end up finding another job, and only the 401K was offered, would you take the job or walk away? We have all witnessed some of what Jack B has mentioned. Whoever he may be, we have seen some distrubing things from the strikers, all of us have. Of course I would stand up for my spouse and the other way around. Mr. and Mrs. Fair, you have mentioned integrity. Mr. Fair, not long ago, we were out,neighbors were out, you intentionally screamed, yelled and ranted at a staff member, non the less a woman. These were your co-workers, how could you do that and fell you have so much integrity?No matter how you feel Sir, it is not correct to jump on and scream at a woman in a harsh tone, ever. You clearly harrassed her. You must have scared her half to death. We have seen you around, we have said Hi, how are you, you seemed like a nice guy. This is very scary. Why did you do this, please don't deny it, several of us witnessed this. We all realize emotions are running rapid, but flying off the handle like that, a man should never do. I hope for Mrs. Fair's sake, who is standing by you, that you do not take this out on her or your children at home. It was you Sir, and Mr. Fair, that is not integrity, that is a man with fear in him. A few other of the strikers have done things witnessed also by us and neighbors. Please stop this. No man who has integrity, morals, convicted values would verbally harrass a woman, let alone a staff member. No matter how you seem to literally hate this company.
Please don't reply with I didn't do it, it wasn't me, yes Mr. Fair it was you. I hope for the sake of our community around Potomac Farms peace can somehow be achieved. We can't help where we chose to live, but please we are all trying to stay impartial,sometimes it is hard. Please protest with integrity, not violence.
Dakota S.
October 18, 2012 at 10:03 pm
[censored] it! Forget it, I'm done with this tiny box.
Tom F.
October 18, 2012 at 7:50 pm
The amusing aspect of "Jack's" post is that it shows evidence of how the company is recruiting the weak through people like him or her instead of an official
Tom F.
October 18, 2012 at 7:48 pm
That is your opinion and this is America so you are initiated to it but you don't know these peoples stories. Besides if there are people dying to work that job tell me why 2 out of every 3 people hired there quit? That is why my husband hasn't had a relief man for a year. You really don't know the whole story or if you do you are just stretching the truth. That is all I have to say about it! I just don't appreciate you making assumptions about my children and husband.
Tara T.
October 18, 2012 at 7:32 pm
i have already started to buy another brand and i plan on staying with them now and sure more people will follow, just screwing yourseld when they end up laying off people next.
John B.
October 18, 2012 at 6:59 pm
first off in a economy like it is, i think it should have been worked out while you worked. 6 days a week, theres people who would take your place today for a job. wake up people
John B.
October 18, 2012 at 6:57 pm
I request a bigger box it is really hard to type a message in here!
Tara T.
October 18, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Correction twice *their. Don't you judge my husband or his integrity because you know nothing about my family, or do you? I'm am sure that is not your name and have a few ideas of who you are which makes me laugh. You are either from the inside or a fat lazy gamer that should get a life, log off your Wizard 101 account and worry about your own problems!
Tara T.
October 18, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Jack, this is all too funny. I have never known a V.P. of any real company that would dirty there hands in such a conversation but then again I don't know a V.P of any company. I will give you credit that you are right about some facts, in fact you know way too much information to not be on the inside. In reference to the insurance, my husband was simply answering the question she asked him. She already had knowledge of the insurance being dropped and simply answered what he was asked. As far as being a woman, I assure you a woman stands by her man and that is what I intend to do and my husband believes in standing by his co workers not leaving them behind. Oh, and as far as my kids and monetary things as you mentioned, I would rather have my kids obtain respect and respect others than worry about what we have and don't have. No matter what happens my kids know they have two parents that love them and are willing to sacrifice materialistic things just like their father has sacrificed working six days for the last year with no relief man. My husband has always done what he had to to support my family and that is why I will support him. Oh, and blame the company on this one, not these men. They are the ones willing to LET THERE BUSINESS GO rather than make a phone call. This company hates
Tara T.
October 18, 2012 at 3:12 pm
Jack, let me start by saying even if I was an outsider, free of a union background and upbringing, I would feel the same way about this situation. As I stated before, the information in the videos, interviews, and articles has been factual. How could I possibly know? I am the Office Manager for Teamsters Local 453. I've been here and know where things have stood and still stand. You can't say that you have, neither can the members you state of slandered our Business Agent. I may not negotiate contracts, but when you insult my Local Union and its staff, you are insulting me. This is what I stand for. This is my life. This is my family. To my brothers and sisters on strike, I am proud of you beyond words. I will stand with you and we will prevail. In solidarity, Ashley Wolfe
Ashley W.
October 18, 2012 at 12:41 pm
This to Jack B. In case you didn't know, this is happening right now. Please copy and paste as your status and show support for your local hard working milk men (and women) as well as their families. Swing by and give them a thumbs up.
"Potomac Farms, a division of Gallikers Dairy, is participating in union breaking behavior. No matter how you feel about unions, their behavior has been absolutely ridiculous! They have left their men on the line for five weeks this Wed. with no attempts of negotiations. This is all in an attempt to break the union. They have stooped as low as taking down the Potomac Farms sign last week to make their workers believe that they were closing the business.There are many men on the line that have worked there for 20 plus years and my husband whom has been there for 16 years, and this is how they are treated. This is sad and embarrassing not only for the workers but for this company. Please keep these struggling families, including mine, in your thoughts. Driving for Potomac Farms is not an easy job and I have watched my husband struggle to provide for his family for 16 years missing out on life. It has not been an ideal job nor made us rich but he has worked hard to make a respectable living only to be kicked in the face by management. Believe me when I say that their contract offer was appalling. Please join in a boycott of all Potomac Farms and Galliker's products in support of these men that have spent their lives working hard to make a respectable living, only to get stuck in the middle of a company's agenda." %u2014 I have always taught my kids that sometimes you have to stand up for what is right even if you have to pay a personal price. More people need to stand up for what is right, not just for themselves, but for others as well! Oh my, if this happened wouldn't the world be a better place! Thanks to all the supporters, you make the working man proud and for non-supporters, just remember when you lose your voice you lose your your rights!U know a strike is a lot like a civil war. It divides families friends and even significant others. Were all hurting financially emotionally and every other way in between. We go thru phases of being mad depressed afraid and every other emotion u can think of. Its not an issue of pride its an issue of integrity. Not sure if most of you even know why were out here or even if u care. But i do know one thing im standing up for whats right and what i believe in deep in my heart. And if your not for me your against me. Now lets see how true my friends and family really are!!A person who promotes fear is also controlled by fear. If you're really in an union then do them a favor and drop out, you can't conceive unity with your inward philosophies. All the information in each and every piece of news on this strike has been factual. I can see how a scab and a coward would twist it to make himself feel better !! SO THERE YOU JACK B. OR WHOM EVER YOU ARE !!
Steven M.
October 18, 2012 at 11:46 am
This to Jack B. In case you didn't know, this is happening right now. Please copy and paste as your status and show support for your local hard working milk men (and women) as well as their families. Swing by and give them a thumbs up.
"Potomac Farms, a division of Gallikers Dairy, is participating in union breaking behavior. No matter how you feel about unions, their behavior has been absolutely ridiculous! They have left their men on the line for five weeks this Wed. with no attempts of negotiations. This is all in an attempt to break the union. They have stooped as low as taking down the Potomac Farms sign last week to make their workers believe that they were closing the business.There are many men on the line that have worked there for 20 plus years and my husband whom has been there for 16 years, and this is how they are treated. This is sad and embarrassing not only for the workers but for this company. Please keep these struggling families, including mine, in your thoughts. Driving for Potomac Farms is not an easy job and I have watched my husband struggle to provide for his family for 16 years missing out on life. It has not been an ideal job nor made us rich but he has worked hard to make a respectable living only to be kicked in the face by management. Believe me when I say that their contract offer was appalling. Please join in a boycott of all Potomac Farms and Galliker's products in support of these men that have spent their lives working hard to make a respectable living, only to get stuck in the middle of a company's agenda." %u2014 I have always taught my kids that sometimes you have to stand up for what is right even if you have to pay a personal price. More people need to stand up for what is right, not just for themselves, but for others as well! Oh my, if this happened wouldn't the world be a better place! Thanks to all the supporters, you make the working man proud and for non-supporters, just remember when you lose your voice you lose your your rights!U know a strike is a lot like a civil war. It divides families friends and even significant others. Were all hurting financially emotionally and every other way in between. We go thru phases of being mad depressed afraid and every other emotion u can think of. Its not an issue of pride its an issue of integrity. Not sure if most of you even know why were out here or even if u care. But i do know one thing im standing up for whats right and what i believe in deep in my heart. And if your not for me your against me. Now lets see how true my friends and family really are!!A person who promotes fear is also controlled by fear. If you're really in an union then do them a favor and drop out, you can't conceive unity with your inward philosophies. All the information in each and every piece of news on this strike has been factual. I can see how a scab and a coward would twist it to make himself feel better !! SO THERE YOU JACK B. OR WHOM EVER YOU ARE !!
Steven M.
October 18, 2012 at 11:45 am
Oops, sorry, now I have egg on my face,lol. I should not have looked over reports while trying to convey a message, one which I am very passionate about.
Jack B.
October 18, 2012 at 11:35 am
Ashley,
While you seem much more relatable and much better at explaining than the last person, I will tell you a thing or two. First off, I am a Vice President of a very large company with various trucking companies scattered all over the country. I consider myself a trucker and I always will. I started out decades ago as a trucker and I always will be a trucker. I have no problem driving, riding, pulling my share with men or women drivers to stops, helping them out when needed. Maybe I am not the normal VP. We are in a union, it is not the Teamsters. There is nothing wrong with the Teamsters as a whole, but your Local President has let you down and miserably. Vendors tell each other things. I have talked to some of your drivers in the past, who seem to have loved their job. They were not happy, they were especially unhappy with your Local 453 P and your shop steward. I have also spoken with some who do not seem to care.They spoke horribly of him. All in all they will deny it, but they know in their hearts and soul, he didn't do his job correctly.Neither did. Some of the same men who have appeared in numberous videos. Do they know I am a VP, no, they see me in a truck and just think I am delivering,a helper, checking orders. I will do a route if I need to, to help out anyone if an emergency arises and that is not my job, but I have no problem doing it. Because of my title, that does not make me any better than anyone else on this earth. We have been following the story, not closely but we have. Many have read all over the comments, trying to make sense of this. What I said about the harrassment, vandalizm and lies are true.You all know it is. Some of your guys have big mouths. Even if we were not union and I still had worked my way up the ranks, I would take care of those working at the company I do. If the business owners knew what a few of your men are doing, which actually could be illegal, they may be disgusted. All of your employees whether on the road, at a stop or even out somewhere, converse with our drivers and other people as well. Other people hear conversations. Some have told all vendors everything, from the beginning. Some haven't said anything.That is how I know what they offered because they told me and they told many other guys. And many other companies. I wouldn't say all, but a lot have.A few have bluntly came out and said what they have been doing to try and break, disrupt the company. IMO, that is wrong. I believe these rumors. I am trying to honestly get it through to the good,decent men, and I know there are many, I do not think the company will put them back in the pension plan. As I stated, if they do go and find another job, if it is only a 401k then what would this be for? The company according to your guys gave the strikers the last offer.Why didn't they strike last year? You do not need a Federal mediator. That is more stories. If they chose to go back to work and are that unhappy, look for another job. I said it was not fair, that I would be mad as hell, but raising a family alongside a woman who also worked is financially hard in itself.I am not the type of man who would let my family down, I have always been like that and I always will. It upsets anyone who is rational to know there is children involved. I wish this could be settled. The warped minions,who seem to be so proud of what they have achieved,love to gloat, bigshots, you know it is true what I said and you know I didn't even mention half of it. It is true, maybe you do not know all about it. It is a handful. Many of your strikers have spoken off of the picket line, they want to go back to work. I think they must somehow feel intimidated, scared.Some have said they don't want to ever go back,never will. That's fine, the ones who really want to should be able to do so without fear and intimidation from anyone. If your company actually responded to the LP, do you think he would tell all of you or would he cover it up? I suspect he is in hot water enough as it is with the IBT I could say more, I won't. I am happy you are standing by the men, I am glad you are there for them, because if nothing changes it will be so much harder for them in the longrun. I have always taken responsibility as a man. I am not a scab. My sons are intelligent enough to know a good situation from a bad situation. Yes, Ashley by being stubborn, scared, just don't care they are leaving the customers down, they are leaving their families down, if they have one. Crossing a line that was basically made of scare tactics, bad decisions is not wrong. Each person needs to decide that for themself. They need to look at their economic situation, they need to look inside their souls. They may be getting a raw deal but it's the only deal they have at the moment and that came straight from some of your strikers mouth pretty much from the beginning. You seem like a very nice, genuine woman. I wish you the best. I just really hate to see good men, good workers listening to lies. I hope this situation can be resolved. The economy is not doing well. Our business is, all of the comapnies are. These two seemed to be doing very well, until this. If Galliker's told them from the get go, they wanted them out of the pension plan, and have stuck with that decision, this is all you have. There are just too many good workers to be on the outside looking in. Best wishes. May God Bless all of you. I am not responding anymore. I am just trying to help the good workers at least try to see somesort of light.
Jack B.
October 18, 2012 at 11:30 am
Ashley,
While you seem much more relatable and much better at explaining than the last person, I will tell you a thing or two. First off, I am a Vice President of a very large company with various trucking companies scattered all over the country. I consider myself a trucker and I always will. I started out decades ago as a trucker and I always will be a trucker. I have no problem driving, riding, pulling my share with men or women drivers to stops, helping them out when needed. Maybe I am not the normal VP. We are in a union, it is not the Teamsters. There is nothing wrong with the Teamsters as a whole, but your Local President has let you down and miserably. Vendors tell each other things. I have talked to some of your drivers in the past, who seem to have loved their job. They were not happy, they were especially unhappy with your Local 453 P and your shop steward. I have also spoken with some who do not seem to care.They spoke horribly of him. All in all they will deny it, but they know in their hearts and soul, he didn't do his job correctly.Neither did. Some of the same men who have appeared in numberous videos. Do they know I am a VP, no, they see me in a truck and just think I am delivering,a helper, checking orders. I will do a route if I need to, to help out anyone if an emergency arises and that is not my job, but I have no problem doing it. Because of my title, that does not make me any better than anyone else on this earth. We have been following the story, not closely but we have. Many have read all over the comments, trying to make sense of this. What I said about the harrassment, vandalizm and lies are true.You all know it is. Some of your guys have big mouths. Even if we were not union and I still had worked my way up the ranks, I would take care of those working at the company I do. If the business owners knew what a few of your men are doing, which actually could be illegal, they may be disgusted. All of your employees whether on the road, at a stop or even out somewhere, converse with our drivers and other people as well. Other people hear conversations. Some have told all vendors everything, from the beginning. Some haven't said anything.That is how I know what they offered because they told me and they told many other guys. And many other companies. I wouldn't say all, but a lot have.A few have bluntly came out and said what they have been doing to try and break, disrupt the company. IMO, that is wrong. I believe these rumors. I am trying to honestly get it through to the good,decent men, and I know there are many, I do not think the company will put them back in the pension plan. As I stated, if they do go and find another job, if it is only a 401k then what would this be for? The company according to your guys gave the strikers the last offer.Why didn't they strike last year? You do not need a Federal mediator. That is more stories. If they chose to go back to work and are that unhappy, look for another job. I said it was not fair, that I would be mad as hell, but raising a family alongside a woman who also worked is financially hard in itself.I am not the type of man who would let my family down, I have always been like that and I always will. It upsets anyone who is rational to know there is children involved. I wish this could be settled. The warped minions,who seem to be so proud of what they have achieved,love to gloat, bigshots, you know it is true what I said and you know I didn't even mention half of it. It is true, maybe you do not know all about it. It is a handful. Many of your strikers have spoken off of the picket line, they want to go back to work. I think they must somehow feel intimidated, scared.Some have said they don't want to ever go back,never will. That's fine, the ones who really want to should be able to do so without fear and intimidation from anyone. If your company actually responded to the LP, do you think he would tell all of you or would he cover it up? I suspect he is in hot water enough as it is with the IBT I could say more, I won't. I am happy you are standing by the men, I am glad you are there for them, because if nothing changes it will be so much harder for them in the longrun. I have always taken responsibility as a man. I am not a scab. My sons are intelligent enough to know a good situation from a bad situation. Yes, Ashley by being stubborn, scared, just don't care they are leaving the customers down, they are leaving their families down, if they have one. Crossing a line that was basically made of scare tactics, bad decisions is not wrong. Each person needs to decide that for themself. They need to look at their economic situation, they need to look inside their souls. They may be getting a raw deal but it's the only deal they have at the moment and that came straight from some of your strikers mouth pretty much from the beginning. You seem like a very nice, genuine woman. I wish you the best. I just really hate to see good men, good workers listening to lies. I hope this situation can be resolved. The economy is not doing well. Our business is, all of the comapnies are. These two seemed to be doing very well, until this. If Galliker's told them from the get go, they wanted them out of the pension plan, and have stuck with that decision, this is all you have. There are just too many good workers to be on the outside looking in. Best wishes. May God Bless all of you. I am not responding anymore. I am just trying to help the good workers at least try to see somesort of light.
Jack B.
October 18, 2012 at 11:29 am
Jack B.
A person who promotes fear is also controlled by fear. If you're really in an union then do them a favor and drop out, you can't conceive unity with your inward philosophies. I'm on the BLVD from 8 am to 3 pm and please feel free to approach me with your sons so they can see what a real man looks like.
Tom F.
October 18, 2012 at 10:28 am
Well Nicole G, if you are a woman, God help your husband and children or boyfriend or SO for that matter. I have never been on a picket line as we have never striked.So that would make me not a scab, but I would do what I needed to, not listen to people like you. The do not move out of the chair men cheerleader movement. We had excellent representation, and a great shop steward who can speak properly and knew the rules by heart. Your big mouthed shop steward is dumber than a ton of bricks and that is quite an insult to bricks.You see this is how they attack, you women if you are, can only attack. Big shots, with pea brains. I have this impression in my head that you must be a mess, inside and outside. If you have someone on the picket line, even a son, are you going to be able to support him or them? Of course you should stand up for yourself, is that why you are so mean, so upset because perhaps it is one of your men that is trashing everyone and everything? Look at this video and tell me that they are not whining, maybe they need the cheese to feed the rats.My sons are strong, fine outstanding young men. They do not need the advice of someone who cannot even post correctly.Whatever you are, loser would come to mind. The more they run their big mouths on what they have already destruted and who they have harrassed it will only cause further complications. Keep on telling them to stand strong, while they have let their children down.Best of luck with that, I hope because of the likes of you and others that the decent men there stay away from an instigator such as yourself and know how to think for themselves.
Jack B.
October 18, 2012 at 8:59 am
"Jack", I may not be on strike but I am at the picket line nearly every day. These members are not letting their customers, themselves, or their families down. They are standing up for what they believe in, which is more than can be said about you. I am extremely proud to call them my Teamster brothers and sister. You miss the point: these members are united. It%u2019s the scabs who crossed that are letting themselves and their families down. No, your sons would not be proud of you for being a coward. The members haven%u2019t lost business, the company has. Did you watch the video above? Business owners indicate they rely on rumors because they don%u2019t hear anything from Galliker%u2019s/Potomac Farms Dairy. If you%u2019ve paid any attention in the last five weeks, you would know that the company hasn%u2019t responded to Federal Mediation, Teamsters Local 453, or any media outlets. You think these members should just go back to work after their employer has ignored them for over a month? Unlike the company, Teamsters Local 453 has been very vocal about the on goings of this strike otherwise there%u2019d be no news! Since you know so much, what was the last offer, %u201CJack%u201D? You sure do think you know a lot for not being a %u201CTP%u201D, a Teamster, on strike, and/or in another union. You speak of all of these horrendous lies. All the information in each and every piece of news on this strike has been factual. I can see how a scab and a coward would twist it to make himself feel better. In solidarity
Ashley W.
October 18, 2012 at 8:37 am
I'm shocked to see that the silly flock of women, if they were women, haven't came on in strong defense of their men. You know why, I am telling the truth. My sons know many of all of the workers from Plant, Dock to Driver. They can't even comprehend what they are thinking of. Communities need to know that some of the strikers are not who they seem to be.Whether they be Inside, Outside, Driver/Salesmen. They knew the insurance was ending at the end of September. They have tried to halt the business, I am sure it has taken a hit. Is this what you want, really, really want, to have it closed down, then what do you do? You might be denied unemployment possibly, how do you live? How do you take care of your children? This small group who have such a hold on the others, have destructed private properties, vandalized properties, screamed vulgarities at a man and his family at a public place where other adults and children were around, they have stalked the staff, followed them around, screaming vulgarities, evening and well into the night. Quite a network they have. Maybe the decent men should look at these aggitators and take a hard,long look at what they are doing. Do the strikers agree with this type of mob mentality? Wouldn't you have pride and express that while striking. We've rode by a couple of times, usually mid to late evening,they looked liked they didn't have a care in the world. This is how low they will go. They want you the customer and you the consumer to feel they have been victimized while they are yucking it up, sticking it to the company and their families. There is no justification in their actions, not all again, the small minority who feel they should destroy and destruct. Would you as a customer who has been loyal want them to be a part of your operation? I ponder why they listen to the local yokal cow Teamsters President. What are they so afraid of? If things are getting so terribly bad for these men, then why do they not think of themselves, not the few who have lied and the TP who have done this and encouraged this. What is odd is the nasty ones run their mouths to anyone who will listen and laugh at what they have done.And the rumors circulate throughout other vendors, such as myself. Meanwhile, out of work another day, because they fear the Local Yokal President. Is he going to pay your bills, is he going to help you feed and clothe your kids? No, he acts concerned, he isn't. He wants to be a bigshot. You had the last offer, you can go in anytime, he is lying to you. Stop falling for this bs and stand up as a man and hold your head up high and go into work! Suppose you are lucky to get another job, what if they only have a 401k will you accept it or not? I imagine if you are desperate for money you would accept that job.Then that would basically make you a hypocrite. Do you see my point. God gave some of you the ability to do the right thing, take the step or stop whining and complaining. It is in your hands men. The good men, the haters just as i stated before, say to hell with you. Think about it before all is gone and what good life you had may be also. At least for the sake of your kids, your grandchildren.
Jack B.
October 18, 2012 at 8:04 am
Ahh, the advice of a scabby rat. Had a lot of advice for being so busy in his own life. Speaking of whining, you want some cheese with that, little buddy?!? The MEN on strike haven't whined, as much as this scab in two paragraphs!! Tell your sons you run when times get tough, tell them not to stand up for what they deserve but settle for less. That's what you said...that's what you did. Now, Jack, I'm proudly signing off, using my real name. Nicole G.
Nicole G.
October 18, 2012 at 7:25 am
Ahh, the advice of a scabby rat. Had a lot of advice for being so busy in his own life. Speaking of whining, you want some cheese with that, little buddy?!? The MEN on strike haven't whined, as much as this scab in two paragraphs!! Tell your sons you run when times get tough, tell them not to stand up for what they deserve but settle for less. That's what you said...that's what you did. Now, Jack, I'm proudly signing off, using my real name.
Nicole G.
October 18, 2012 at 7:24 am
One more thing that should be noted. This economy is not going to get much better any time soon. I have also talked with the guys from Johnstown, so sure I know they make more money and they are in another union than you. I probably would be mad as hell also, but I would do it for my family, anything for my family. However, I would rather have a job to pay my bills, and have my sons proud of me, then ask me one day, Dad,"Why did we lose our house, Dad, why don't we have the nice things we used to, Dad why weren't you at least grateful to have a job, Dad, why are we on welfare?"
You really need to think of this. There are way to many minions telling lies to some of you great guys and the worst thing about this you actually believe the TP and the liars. Trust in God, have faith. Do what a man needs to do. Only each of you are in charge of your future. So I say stop complaining you also knew your union pay, I mean he was completely honest with you on that, right? Or not. Let the IBT deal with him, you deal with your own life.
Jack B.
October 17, 2012 at 11:21 pm
Let's call a spade a spade. I am a truck driver. I am under another union and thankfully have an excellent Union President who knows how to negociate and who just isn't in this for himself. Yes, you all know it is true. Every single one of you have done nothing but complained continuosly right from the start of negotiations that he was not doing nothing,nothing at all for you, you called him names, you know he is decieving you? You all know it. How do I know this? Several of you who I have run into at various stops all over States and counties, have told me he let you down. Yes, you did.I suspect you are afraid as he is telling all of you bs, oh you are going to get such a big fine from the Teamsters. I've heard how he is spinning it.Really? You told me the company wanted you out of the Teamster pension plan, many of you were ok with what they offered, then a few, who I also know, workers/strikers, who also chose to call him vulgar names decided to start your own little mafia. Meanwhile, you have left the customers down, you have left yourself down but most of all you have left your families down.
Ok, so certain ones are spreading lies to you and you are believing them. You all had a d@mn good job, but you let your local TP blow it. And, why are you listenting to those so called warped strikers who are lying to you. Did you not know the company's last offer to you? Sure you did. A lot of great workers there, and some men who are not men but minions. You have a choice, stop listenting to the lies coming from your non friends and the TP. or be a man and unite and go back and accept this as you all said you would. Man up. You had and have such loyal customers all over.But, you are taking this company down because you choose to listen to a handful of liars! In this economy, you should be glad to have a job. Don't let a few rotten apples tell you how to run your own life.
Along with him, you now have some strikers who are harrassing, using vulgarity, causing destrusction. Is this how you want to be preceived? Now you are whining. You knew with him at the helm, you would not get no where, didn't you? Many of you told me you would accept the last and final offer. What do I care, I have a better UP.
If the conditions you were ok with when you left were still there, before you destroy your families, man up and as a group go back to work or have at leave enough nerve to go in on your own. And if some try to stop you, well the hell with them! A man must always take care of his family. None of you are. You are spreading lies to the communities. You should be ashamed. Own it and man up to it. You want to keep listening to lies, go right ahead, you are the losers. Sorry, I can't help you, no job openings where I work.
Jack B.
October 17, 2012 at 10:52 pm
